The new film Avengers: Infinity War, based on the Marvel Comics superhero team the Avengers, has already grossed over $1 billion worldwide and had the highest-grossing opening in film history. In this episode, Bishop Barron and Jared Zimmerer explore some of the movie’s philosophical and spiritual themes.

*SPOILER ALERT!* This episode contains spoilers so only listen after you’ve seen the film, or if you don’t plan to see it.

Topics Discussed

  • 0:04 – Introduction, confirmation season
  • 4:30 – What does Bishop Barron think of comic book movies and the villain, Thanos?
  • 6:17 – How does Thanos mirror Nietzsche and alchemy?
  • 9:45 – How does Thanos reflect the totalitarian regimes of the World War II?
  • 13:05 – How does the Church stand against the idea that “the end justifies the means”?
  • 15:45 – What are the shortcomings of the Marvel heroes, and how do they reflect the Greek gods?
  • 21:50 – How did Bishop Barron react to the surprise ending?
  • 25:00 – Who is Bishop Barron’s favorite super hero?
  • 26:00 – Question – By what criteria to you criticize movies?

Bonus Resources

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3 comments on “WOF 127: Bishop Barron on “Avengers: Infinity War”

  1. Fr. John Retar May 15, 2018

    I am glad I listened to this podcast. I thought that the Avengers was based on the old British TV series of the 1960’s, “The Avengers.” It was a classic and fun TV series.

  2. Benedict xvi really said it best with the use of the phrase, ‘dictatorship of moral relativism.’ There is a great disconnect from John Paul ii, John Cardinal O’Conner with a tremendous fragmentation in The Church to counter the dictatorship of the ‘culture of death.’ Was it Lenin that equated ‘socialism’ as the new ‘religion?’ Many intellectual secular elitists have formed a form of godliness and have changed over the decades on moral issues — and for gaining popular support have become more of ‘one mind,’ greatly influencing society with playing at heartstrings honey speech rhetoric. We are at a crossroads. If we do not become of ‘one mind,’ much better for the culture of life as a people of God; and for religious freedom, and for the natural law; and do not receive the courage of The Holy Spirit to compassionately with sustained zeal answer these threats — the the ‘progressive’ ‘religion’ will use the dictatorship of moral relativism in ways we can only glimpse at. I find it sad that this threat of a form of godliness theocracy is not realized. And this one that is developing is much more insidious that what has happened this far in history. And by the way, it is a conservative estimate that one billion seven hundred thousand children have been eliminated world wide in just over fifty years. It took the world through war and atrocity thousands of years to elimate one-half a billion through these means.
    It takes solidarity with these children and an immense desire to creatively, courageously with an immense sustained witness in every hedgerow and highway with the culture of life to help inform consciences. This helps give credence to our evangelization of Evangelium Vitae and ‘Living The Gospel of Life.’ I find it sad that those who call for this are not called The People of Life promoting the Culture of Life and asking for more unity, but ‘obsessed with abortion.’ This is very sad, and The Holy Spirit’s legacy through John Paul ii, Bishop Fulton J. Sheen, John Cardinal O’Connor, Mother Teresa, and many others — with the same Power of The Holy Spirit seeking the same thing to continue is greatly damaged by that type of attitude toward this work of The Holy Spirit. And I have heard it said that this ‘doesn’t work.’ What is interesting is that the anesthetizing influence since the late sixties and early seventies — of so much rhetoric that hurts the shock of this atrocity — greatly aided by the media — found its way into all of Christendom. It is like Mahatma Gandhi, (I think it was him) that said Christianity fails for lack of being tried. The Sacredness of Life witness for those yet to be born, birthed, and to a natural falling asleep has been greatly curtailed for lack of countering the elitist secularists in the farthest reaches of The Church and the hedgerows and highways — where a great sustained response is needed,
    God Bless you.

  3. Cheryl Mersch May 23, 2018

    I am not a superhero follower or cartoon enthusiast either, but my adult “kids” wanted to take me to see this movie. I was a little bored with the continuous battles between each of the characters in this movie, however, towards the end I started to form a comparison to the Narnia theme. I looked up the name Thanos in Greek and the definition was “eternal” or “immortal”. I started looking at Thanos as God angry at people (superheros) who think their powers are greater than his. Gemora (Thanos’s adopted daughter), reminded me of Jesus crucified on the cross for our salvation. She asked Thanos,” if it was worth it?”, after he pushed her off the cliff. He shed a tear, as I imagine God sheds a tear when the martyrs died for Him. Thanos called one of the stones he was collecting a “soul stone”. Maybe he was trying to “save” humanity and return it to his original creation, similar to the great flood and the Noah story. Instead of looking at Thanos as evil, I looked at him like the great judge at the second coming.

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